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WELCOME TO JUST A MINUTE!

starring KENNETH WILLIAMS, DEREK NIMMO, CLEMENT FREUD and PETER JONES, chaired by NICHOLAS PARSONS (Radio, 4 April 1978)


Note: This was transcribed by Vicki Walker. Thank you Vicki! :-)


ANNOUNCER: We present Kenneth Williams, Clement Freud, Peter Jones and Derek Nimmo in Just A Minute. And as the Minute Waltz fades away, here to tell you about it is our chairman, Nicholas Parsons.

NICHOLAS PARSONS: Thank you, thank you very much, hello and welcome to Just A Minute. And ah once again Iím going to ask our four panelists to speak if they can on the subject that I will give them without hesitation, without repetition and without deviating from that subject if they can. And weíll begin the show this week with Derek Nimmo and Derek, the subject is salesmen. Can you tell us something about those in the game, starting now.

DEREK NIMMO: Salesmanship is, ahem, persuading people they canít live without something that they never realized that they needed. I for a long time was a salesman, once working, as a matter of fact, in Petticoat Lane selling patent medicine, a particular kind of liquid which was called the finest liver-cleansing fluid in the world and we used to fill it up from a bottle at the back and it said 100 percent...

BUZZ

NP: Clement Freud has challenged you.

CLEMENT FREUD: What happened to you?

DN: I donít quite know what to say about that, really.

NP: Right, so it was an incorrect challenge, so Derek, you get a point for that and you keep the subject. There are 38 seconds left. The subject is salesmen and you start now.

DN: A salesman is a sort of smooth-talking fellow that single (collapse).

BUZZ

NP: And ah Peter Jones has challenged.

PETER JONES: Eh, hesitation.

NP: Yes, it is not as smooth as ah Derek illustrated. Ah, I agree with the hesitation. A point to you for a correct challenge, Peter. Twenty-four sec... sorry, 34 seconds are left, salesmen, starting now.

PJ: A really good salesman who is loyal to his company will only sell to people who actually require the goods that heís trying to offload onto them in exchange for their hard-earned cash. Now these high-powered salesmen who go around the country knocking on peopleís doors trying to...

BUZZ

NP: Ah, Derek Nimmo challenged.

DN: I donít think youíd be very high-powered if you go around knocking on peopleís doors, would you?

NP: But I would have thought...

DN: It smacks of vacuum cleaning.

NP: ...that you can be a high-powered vacuum cleaner salesman or a low-powered vacuum salesman cleaner. I donít matter what station of salesmanship youíre at, you can either be high-powered at your job or low-powered.

CF: Surely it depends on the door, not on the...

NP: It probably does, but I think that Peter was not deviating from the subject of salesmen, so he keeps it with another point and 13 seconds starting now.

PJ: The brief conversation which ensues usually ends up with the housewife inviting this salesman into her home, and he sprinkles a lot of rubbish all over the carpet, whereupon he opens his box...

WHISTLE

NP: So the whistle which Ian Messiter blows for us tells us that 60 seconds is up and whoever is speaking at that moment gains an extra point. And it was, as youíve guessed, Peter Jones. Well, not as youíve guessed, youíve realised it, didnít you! So Peterís in the lead at the end of the round. Kenneth, will you begin the next round? The subject is panache. Will you tell us something about that in Just A Minute starting now.

KENNETH WILLIAMS: Itís derived from pana, which means feather, and it really signifies a plume or bunch of feathers. And of course its historical significance for the English is profound since the originator of that great line did take from the ground before the battle that famous plant the genet and stuck it in his helmet. And thereafter gave rise to the Plantagenets of England, who, incidentally, caused an awful lot of trouble. But that is to depart from the subject panache...

BUZZ

NP: Eh, Derek Nimmo has challenged.

DN: Deviation. Heís departed from the subject.

NP: By your own admission you departed from the subject! And you even drew their attention to it! So Derek, I agree with your challenge. Seventeen seconds are left, panache, starting now.

DN: Oh, the excitement to be at Halfleur with your panache trailing behind you, and riding down the battlement the great cry of "God for Harry, England and St. George!" Riding against the French with a crossbowman at your side on your mighty stallion, and my goodness, the thrill packaged with excitement...

WHISTLE

NP: The idea of you riding on your stallion with a crossbowman aside. He must be going pretty fast to keep up with the horse.

DN: Nippy fellows.

NP: Anyway, he didnít challenge and you kept going. Youíve got the point for speaking as the whistle went and youíre equal with Peter Jones in the lead at the end of the round. Clement Freud, will you begin please with the subject of gambits? Sixty seconds starting now.

CF: A gambit is a ploy or plan which you use in order to win something which you might otherwise lose. So that for instance in chess...

BUZZ

NP: Ooh, what a funny noise. Derek, your buzzer went a bit off there.

DN: Well, if I may say, thatís not quite true. Deviation. Because a gambit is to lose a piece in order that you may win other pieces.

CF: Not necessarily.

NP: Not necessarily.

DN: Oh, it is.

NP: Itís a very good gambit, that particular stage.

DN: Thatís what it is in chess.

NP: Yes, in chess it may be. But it can also be a different... thereíd be different kinds of gambits.

DN: Ah.

NP: You stick to your gambits and let Freud have his gambits. And anybody in the audience can have their own little gambits and then... No, I disagree with the challenge, Derek, so there are 49 and a half seconds with you, Clement, still on gambits, starting now.

CF: I was talking predominantly about the two-tomato-catsup-mustard-pot-salt seller gambit, whereby in a restaurant you are able to summon the manager, the head waiter and quite possibly a floorwalker or three to come along to your aid...

BUZZ

CF: Are you all done?

NP: Derek Nimmo challenged.

DN: Hesitation. Because he just stopped.

NP: Yes, I know. He was grinning at some of the audience as well.

CF: No I wasnít. Idiot gestures around me.

NP: Yes. Well, um, itís um Clement Freudís offbeat day today, and if you consider how offbeat he normally is, itís quite an interesting experience. There are 31 seconds left for you, Derek, to take up the subject of gambits starting now.

DN: What an interesting gambit it would be to ride out from Halfleur on your stallion with your crossbowman by your side. Because heíd have to go frightfully quickly and that might deceive the French and they would think that your horse was being...

BUZZ

NP: And Peter Jones has challenged.

PJ: I think itís objectionable to use the same material for the second subject as you used in the first. It is repetition, actually.

NP: Itís not repetition within the rules of the game, if there are any rules left.

PJ: No, but I mean it...

NP: Itís, uh, the rules are, as far as I know, that you mustnít deviate from the subject on the card and if you could, if you can cleverly enough use the same material for every particular round, I think it would be really quite exceptional.

PJ: Yes, but heís pushing his luck boredom-wise!

NP: Well, itís up to you to get in to be the first to challenge when he pushes it too far. There are 21 seconds with you, Derek, gambits, starting now.

DN: Sitting by my chessboard in a darkened room with only a candle burning, I moved my pawn to kings queen four. This was the most interest...

BUZZ

NP: Ah Clement Freud has challenged.

CF: Kingís queen?

DN: I know.

NP: Deviation.

CF: It was a very odd chessboard.

NP: There are...

DN: It was a rather, rather gay pawn.

NP: Itís a good reply. Uh, Clement, I agree with your challenge. There are nine and a half seconds, gambits, starting now.

CF: I know a tailor who has a gambit, which is to make any sort of suit that he considers suitable where after he advises his customers to eat accordingly.

WHISTLE

NP: At the end of that round Clement Freud was speaking as the whistle went, gained the extra point. Heís uh equal in second with Peter Jones. Derek Nimmo has taken the lead. And Peter, um will you begin the next round with the subject of odd people? Will you tell us something about those in the game starting now?

PJ: Well, being English, I usually think of these as foreigners Ė uh the type of person who wears an...

BUZZ

NP: Derek Nimmo has challenged.

DN: A hesitation.

NP: Yes. A bit naughty, a bit harsh, but there we are. You were right. And there are 53 seconds for odd people, Derek, starting now.

DN: People are frightfully odd, do you know? It is extraordinary sometimes when you wander through an open door and youíre confronted by Kenneth Williams coming toward you. And you look with some extraordinary amazement at his wonderfully keen, slim figure and you think behind all that, he is decidedly odd. But then you realise that it is because of his eccentricity coupled with his warmth and filled with the milk of human kindness that he is the person that we have sitting in front of us today. Yet he is an odd person.

BUZZ

NP: Uh, Clement Freud.

CF: Deviation.

NP: Why?

CF: Heís sitting beside me.

NP: So I would disagree with your challenge and uh, but only give one point to Derek Nimmo, who continues with the subject for 14 and a half seconds of odd people starting now.

DN: Throughout history, odd numbers, and therefore applied to people, have always been considered to be completely lucky.

BUZZ

NP: And Peter Jones has challenged.

PJ: Eh, repetition of people.

NP: Yes, indeed. Oh, no, Iím sorry, peopleís on the card. You are allowed to repeat that more than once or twice.

PJ: Well, I know. Thatís...

NP: Well, itís a good try. You might have caught me off guard, yes.

PJ: Well, I did, actually.

NP: Yes. Ten seconds are left, Derek, on odd people, starting now.

DN: Three has always been a particularly lucky...

BUZZ

NP: Uh, Clement Freud.

CF: Repetition of always.

NP: Yes, yes he did say always before, Iím afraid. There are nine, no, there are not, thereís seven seconds left for odd people, Clement, starting now.

CF: One, three, five, seven, nine, 11, 13, 15 and 17, 19 people --

BUZZ

NP: Kenneth Williams has challenged.

KW: Deviation. I mean, itís just a recitation of numbers. How can you say heís discussing odd people by...

NP: I quite agree.

KW: Oh, quite right.

NP: Quite agree. It really is, itís the Clement Freud offbeat beat tonight. Um, there are four seconds on odd people with you, Kenneth, starting now.

KW: One thinks of Pooter saying to the wife in the garden, "I didnít know we had a lodging house," and she said, "We havenít." He said...

WHISTLE

KW: ..."Well, look at all the borders!" And I think thatís enough. I wish they wouldnít blow whistles in the middle of your, your lines. Youíre trying to get it out, you know, Iím trying to get it out and they blow whistles at you.

NP: Yes, the whistle went just on the payoff to your story. It was very sad.

KW: It is a bit annoying, isnít it?

NP: Mmmm.

KW: A bit annoying when youíre coming to your coup de gras, as our friends on the other side of the Channel put it.

NP: Yes, with their great...

KW: Leaving me on the left (goes into more French) in the process. Ha ha.

NP: Well, Kenneth, even with your coup de gras and your panache and your odd style that you have, you got the point for speaking as the whistle went. And youíre still in fourth place.

KW: Oh.

NP: And weíd like you to begin the next round and the subject is Francis Bacon. So will you tell us something about him in just a minute starting now.

KW: A notable Elizabethan, and I think I could do no better than to give you an example of his prose. "He who hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune." Doesnít that make us think? And that other wonderful line, "Virtue is to riches what the baggage is to an army, necessary for the progress but it impedes the march." Now that makes us sit back and digest a most complicated series of thoughts. And perhaps this is the very essence of good writing, that it does force us in the most exhilarating fashion, to exercise our mental faculties. And perhaps a man...

BUZZ

NP: Uh, Clement Freud has challenged.

CF: Repetition of perhaps.

NP: Iím afraid you did say perhaps before. Um, and itís rather sad because Clementís got in with only two seconds to go and it was so interesting on Francis Bacon.

CF: Aw.

NP: So Clement, with the boos of the audience ringing in your ears, would you tell us in two seconds something about Francis Bacon starting now.

CF: Francis Bacon is a very great friend of my brotherís.

WHISTLE

NP: At the end of that round Clement Freud has gone into second place on his own, ahead of Peter Jones, but just behind our leader, Derek Nimmo. And Clement, your turn to begin. The subject is my...

DN: Can I just ask a question?

NP: Yes, you can ask as many as you like.

DN: Why havenít I had a subject for one, two, three, four, five, six turns?

NP: Um, youíre quite right.

PJ: Because you made such a mess of the first one!

DN: Iím getting all fidgety because I keep thinking itís going to be my turn, then you give it to somebody else.

NP: Itís quite right. Youíre quite right. Iím glad you drew my attention to that because it is your turn. I did turn over two cards and I almost missed you out, Derek. So will you tell us something about the subject of traps in just a minute starting now?

DN: If Iíd only shut my trap I wouldnít have to get such a boring subject as this, actually! Iíve noticed or have I got it in? Of course, there are many kinds of traps. One thinks theatrically of the Hamlet trap and the star variety. The... aforementioned one is coming from Shakespeare.

BUZZ

NP: Uh Kenneth Williams.

KW: Hesitation.

NP: Yes, I agree with the hesitation. So, Kenneth, you have the subject of traps and with 46 seconds, starting now.

KW: I always think of that hole in the floor that Sweeney Todd had so they shoved them down there and made his mince pies. Well, thatís what they told us. Of course, I donít really think anyone ate human pies, itís like giving pigeon pie to a pigeon. Itíd be very...

BUZZ

NP: Um, Peter Jones.

PJ: Repetition of pies.

NP: Yes, a lot of pies and pigeon as well. Em, Peter, you have a point and the subject and 33 seconds on traps starting now.

PJ: I donít much like talking about traps because it brings on...

BUZZ

NP: Um, Kenneth Williams.

KW: Well, if he donít want to talk about it, why donít he shut his trap?

NP: Eh, Peter Jones didnít deviate from the subject of traps, so he still keeps it with 30 seconds to go starting now.

PJ: My point was that the subject was painful to me...

BUZZ

PJ: ...on account of my claustrophobia!

NP: Um, Derek Nimmo.

DN: Painful repetition.

NP: Yes.

PJ: Itís a pity when someoneís got a psychological disturbance of this kind that other people make mock of it at every turn, isnít it! Iím not even allowed to explain why I donít want to talk about it.

NP: I know. It is...

PJ: Terribly insensitive! Iím surprised at Kenneth... well, Iím...

NP: I donít think sensitivity actually comes into playing Just a Minute. It hasnít so far, but, um...

PJ: No, no, otherwise we couldnít account for your chairmanship!

NP: I think the audience now realis why perhaps I am chairman. Because I give them such wonderful cues! There are 24 seconds left for you, Derek, traps, starting now.

DN: Of course, you can have...

BUZZ

NP: Um, Clement Freud has challenged.

CF: Repetition of of course. He started the last... little bit... with of course.

NP: No, he didnít.

CF: He did, actually, yes.

NP: Did he?

CF: I make a little mark. Of course and always. Heís had both.

NP: He didnít say both.

CF: He did. Of course and always.

NP: Oh, I thought you said he said both, b-o-t-h.

CF: No. No.

NP: You made a note of that as well, did you?

CF: No.

NP: You write everybodyís script down in shorthand as it goes on?

CF: No.

NP: Uh, Clement, I, I will trust you on this. Um, let us continue with the programme. So Kenneth, no, whatís your name? Clement Freud, yes, ah, Clement, ah, you have the subject and there are 23 seconds. Traps, starting now.

CF: In East Anglia we have something called gin traps, which are pretty villainous and vicious. But the other Sunday my children went out to try and find a tonic trap in order that I would be able to have a drink before the roast beef and Yorkshire pudding. These are just some of the traps which are, I think...

BUZZ

CF: ...unfairly used.

NP: Uh, Peter Jones has challenged.

PJ: Hesitation.

NP: Yes, he fell into his own trap there, being rather too clever with his gin and tonics. And heís tripped up, so there are five, no, four and a half seconds on traps with you, Peter, starting now.

PJ: Now mousetraps have always fascinated me because you take a piece of...

BUZZ

NP: Uh, Clement Freud has challenged.

CF: Iím afraid always has already come up in Peterís...

NP: Yes, but it was, it was Derek Nimmo who said always before.

CF: No, no, Peter Jones has.

NP: No, no he didnít.

PJ: No, I didnít.

CF: Peter has an always against him!

NP: You told us before, and itís actually in the programme already, on, recorded, in fact, that you told us that it was Derek Nimmo who said always. And youíve made a note of it, so it could not have been Derek Nimmo and Peter Jones.

CF: I keep an of course and always counter for each of my enemies.

DN: Heís so assertive, isnít he!

NP: Yes, and Iím not going to fall into the trap, because Clement Freud sets marvelous traps for me to fall into in Just a Minute. But Iím not, with that absolutely insouciant smile of his, Iím not going to be beguiled. I will say no. Peter, you have the subject still, two seconds left, traps, starting now.

PJ: And theyíre no good for rats or...

WHISTLE

NP: Right. So Peter Jones got a lot of points in that round and heís moved up into first place alongside Derek Nimmo and heís overtaken Clement Freud, whoís still in second place. And now, Clement, we come to you to begin and the subject is my swimsuit. Will you tell us something about it in Just A Minute starting now.

CF: Of course Iíve always wanted to talk about my swimsuit, because since I stopped wearing pants or trunks, I have invested in a very substantial amount of cloth because the avoir du poir, weight or body...

BUZZ

NP: Derek Nimmo.

DN: Hesitation.

NP: I think so, yes.

CF: I think so, yes.

NP: Yes.

CF: Itís not...

NP: There are 44 seconds on my swimsuit, starting now, Derek.

DN: Of course, Iíve always wanted to talk about my swimsuit because I look so absolutely magnificent in it! It is made of black and yellow material, and as I am down "sur de France," as they say across the other side of the channel, people stand and cheer, because I hold a little Union Jack in one hand and paddle into the little waves, and people smile at you.

BUZZ

NP: Ah, Peter Jones.

PJ: Repetition of little.

NP: Yes, it was all going a bit too little, little. Ah, there are 23 seconds for my swimsuit with you, Peter Jones, starting now.

PJ: My swimsuit hasnít been wet for a very long time. When Iíve been to the coastal resorts in England, itís been much too cold. In Australia I was so terrified of being bitten by whales or seals or other animals that were lurking...

BUZZ

NP: Uh, Derek Nimmo challenged.

DN: Deviation. Seals donít bite.

PJ: Yes, but I was still terrified of it! Thereís always a first time for everything!

NP: You could be terrified of being bitten by a mouse and...

PJ: And I am!

NP: So Peter, I agree with your challenge. There are seven seconds left for my swimsuit, starting now.

PJ: It couldnít be worn in Spain because they have laws about indecency and this is such a very small one.

WHISTLE

NP: So Peter Jones has taken the lead at the end of that round, not only for points in the round but getting another one for speaking as the whistle went. Peter, weíre with you to begin again. The subject is strings. Can you tell us something about that in Just A Minute starting now?

BUZZ

NP: Ah, Clement Freud has challenged.

CF: Hesitation.

NP: Indeed it was hesitation. Peter...

PJ: No, it was no hesitation at all!

NP: Wh-wh-why wasnít it hesitation?

PJ: Well, I mean, ah, you canít hesitate if youíre not going to, I mean, youíre not, uh, I hadnít actually started!

NP: Did you realise I asked you to talk on the subject of strings?

PJ: Strings! Ah, yes. I didnít, I didnít hear that. I was waiting, ah, I was waiting for you to repeat that.

NP: Well, weíre not allowed to repeat things in Just a Minute. So Clement, I agree with the challenge. There are 58 seconds on strings, starting now.

CF: If you had a deaf aid, it would be very much easier to hear words like strings being called out by the chairman of this admirable programme. I have strings hanging from my swimsuit, which is why I found it so extraordinarily difficult to speak quickly when called upon to do so. Rope and seizel are excellent for making what is known as a string, especially when it hangs from...

BUZZ

NP: Ah, Derek Nimmo challenged.

DN: He was hanging twice.

NP: Yes, thatís right. They were hanging from your bathing costume before.

CF: I said hang and hangs.

NP: No, I think they were hanging. The strings were hanging from your bathing costume.

CF: Yes. But this time I said hangs, but if youíre not listening it is unimportant.

NP: I was listening so well!

CF: Itís like weíre playing two completely different games. One for logic and one against you!

NP: But there wouldnít be a game if you didnít have someone as idiotic as me as chairman, would you?

DN: May I second that?

NP: I quite agree! Thank you for drawing my attention to that, Clement. It was extremely well done. Now you have drawn my attention to it. I do realise you were absolutely correct, and Derek Nimmo was trying it on as usual, and you keep the subject, you have another point, of course, and 34 seconds on strings, starting now.

CF: Every now and again one is made an offer which sounds enormously attractive until you learn that there are strings attached to it. In...

BUZZ

NP: Ah, Kenneth Williams.

KW: Heís said everyoneís made an offer. Well, no oneís made me any offers and I, well, Iíve had nothing offered me with no strings attached to it or anything! Nothing! I mean, Iíve had nothing anyway! I mean, whatís this everyoneís had offers? Iíve been standing around for ages and nobodyís made me an offer.

NP: Well, according to the rumours, youíre always having offers.

KW: No! Itís rumours. All lies!

NP: No? Oh well, whether itís lies or not...

KW: So itís deviation. Heís said everyoneís getting these offers and weíre not getting them. Thatís deviation and I should get the subject, right?

PJ: He means everyone in East Anglia.

KW: You shut your row! Heís always arguing all the time. Always arguing. I havenít got a word in for ages, have I? Shoes in here, Iíve come all the way from Great Portland Street.

NP: I think youíre doing very well in the present moment getting a word in.

KW: Well, what about me having a go, then?

NP: Iíd love you to have a go, but if I give it against Clement Freud on an incorrect challenge...

CF: No no, if heís not getting it, let him have a go.

KW: Yes!

NP: Well, Clement Freud, whoís sitting beside you, is being extraordinarily generous and decided as you havenít been getting it, you should have it. And Iím going to give you Ė and Iím going to give you the subject of strings and there are 25 seconds left in which to talk about it starting now.

KW: Well, I was given...

BUZZ

NP: And Clement Freud challenged.

CF: Hesitation.

NP: And Clement has given you another point because it was not a hesitation. And there are 24 and a half seconds on strings with you, Kenneth, starting now.

KW: Itís interesting that youíve given me the subject because I have a true...

BUZZ

NP: Clement Freud has challenged again.

CF: Deviation.

NP: Why?

CF: Well, you didnít give him the subject. I did.

NP: I would say that you gave me the subject to give to him. Because the chairman actually finishes up whatever happens by saying I give you the subject. You said, actually, what you said, I remember now, was "give it to him." And he has a legitimately incorrect challenge and there are 20 seconds left starting now.

KW: As a sea cadet I was given a great coil of this stuff with lade on the end and he said, "Take the sounding." I stood forward, threw it into the water but forgot that I had the hold of it and I fell in the river! It was absolutely terrible. And I had my foot down and I was over dragging...

WHISTLE

NP: So Kenneth Williams, struggling out of the river there dripping wet, having got a number of points in that round, is now Ė in fourth place. But we have heard from him, which is what we all like, isnít it? So Kenneth, youíre only just a little behind Clement Freud Ė only two points behind him, actually; only three behind Derek Nimmo and only five behind our leader, Peter Jones. And Derek, your turn to begin. The subject: Jack Ketch. Will you tell us something about him in Just A Minute starting now.

DN: Jack Ketch. Oh my goodness me, what a frightening subject! It takes me back to my childhood when I first went to see a Punch and Judy show and there I saw Jack Ketch with the aforementioned gentleman with the big nose and hump, lighting him on the head. And I was so terrified because, of course, the real, historical Jack Ketch was the great, notorious hangman of the 17th century who killed Ė oh goodness! Ė Lord Russell, strung him up for his part in the Bride Rebellion. I filled with tears, I did, at the untimely death of this most gallant nobleman, all because of the infamous Jack Ketch, who was removed from his post and Mister Rose was put there instead, who was finally hung himself, and poor Jack Ketch lived to hang another day! And if it were not for people like that and a bit more rig and a bit of string perhaps as well, we would have capital punishment back in this country today, not that I approve of it but we donít have Jack Ketch to worry about anymore!

WHISTLE

NP: Well, Derek Nimmo deserves to be hung. He took the subject of Jack Ketch and, that was only a joke, and he kept going magnificently for 60 seconds without being interrupted. And, Iíve just been told, we come to the end of the contest. Kenneth Williams, as Iíve told you before, was only just in fourth place. Clement Freud was only two points ahead of him and Derek Nimmo, with that last bit of panache and talking about Jack Ketch, crept up on Peter Jones, who was previously in the lead, and so we now have joint winners this week, Derek Nimmo and Peter Jones! We do hope that you have enjoyed listening to this particular game and contest, if you can call it that, of Just a Minute and will want to be with us again at the same time next week when once again we all take to the air and we play Just a Minute. Until then, from all of us here now, goodbye.

THEME MUSIC

ANNOUNCER: The chairman of Just a Minute was Nicholas Parsons. The programme was devised by Ian Messiter and produced by John Browell.